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301. Gabe Correa Of Clair Global On Large-Scale Special Events
Gabe Correa, audio and network project manager at Clair Global, joins the show in Episode 301 to talk about special events on a gigantic scale. Gabe is a Brazilian-born audio and fiber project manager who’s led major live and broadcast productions in 30-plus countries across six continents, such as handling technical operations for the FIFA Club World Cup, Formula 1 and Formula-E, YouTube Brandcast, Capitol Concerts in D.C., Fortnite Times Square, and international tours with Andrea Bocelli. This episode is sponsored by Allen & Heath and RCF.
Gabe’s resume also includes three Olympic Games, immersive audio at Expo 2020 Dubai, and building citywide fiber and emergency systems for the Las Vegas, Rome & Brazil Grand Prix. He got his start mixing orchestras and pop tours in Brazil, and now bridges cutting-edge tech and large-scale productions around the world. In 2025, he completed the MIT Applied Generative AI program and is now exploring ways to integrate AI into event workflows and system design
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Episode 301 - Gabe Correa of Clair Global
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[00:00:54] Andy Leviss: Hey, welcome to another episode of Signal Eyes. I'm your host, Andy Leviss, and with me is always my co-host. The Renkus to my Heinz, Mr. Sean Walker. What's up, dude?
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[00:02:19] Andy Leviss: that, that explains the bags under your eyes.
[00:02:21] Sean Walker: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. That's, that's dad life and business, owner life
[00:02:25] Andy Leviss: I mean, fair, fair enough, fair enough. Um, I mean, I'm, I'm at least recovered from the, from the stomach bug of last week. That was a fun, that was a fun weekend change. Yeah. Uh,
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[00:02:46] Andy Leviss: well for better or worse, little one had it first and it spread out from there. So
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[00:02:53] Sean Walker: Fair enough. Fair
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[00:02:56] Sean Walker: Well, a lot of our, a lot of the homies have asked that we do some unique stuff. They liked the unique things rather than just like, hang big pa, left right in arena, let, ready rip. Like, we've got that formula down. I feel like everybody, everybody knows how we're doing that.
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[00:03:25] Gabe Correa: Hey guys, how's it going?
[00:03:27] Sean Walker: Good man. You wanna, uh,
[00:03:29] Gabe Correa: much for having me here.
[00:03:30] Sean Walker: you're welcome dude. Thanks for coming. You wanna tell us a little bit about, uh, who you are and what you do and how you got here?
I mean, not here, but where you are.
[00:03:38] Gabe Correa: Okay. Um, hi everyone. I'm Gabe. Gabe Cara. Um, I'm a project manager for live and broadcast sport events. I've been lucky to work in some big productions like Olympic Games, formula One, um, formula, EWWE, fifa. And yeah, I love what I do. I love these things, and here we are again.
[00:04:08] Sean Walker: Dude. Cool. How do, how do those types of events differ from like the concerts? You said you used to tour right at one point
[00:04:17] Gabe Correa: yeah, yeah.
[00:04:18] Sean Walker: How, how do you like think about the sporting events different than like a touring or concert event?
[00:04:24] Gabe Correa: I think the, the most difference is the broadcast thing. The competition thing as well, you know, because you can maybe bring some trouble for that competition if you're assistant fail or what else can happen, you know what I mean? It's more things involved. Um, you got like Olympic games, like it's a million viewers.
It's everything should have your proper backup and. I think that's the most difference than that rock and roll life that we just do like concert every day. You know, like it's more, for me, it's a bit more heavy, you know? It's more pressure, more everything. But I like, I love when I start, I was like, to be honest, I didn't like race this stuff before.
It was not my thing. But now I even like sit in my so watch sometimes when I'm not working. You know what I mean? Like,
[00:05:22] Sean Walker: Dude, that's.
[00:05:23] Gabe Correa: yeah.
[00:05:25] Sean Walker: And it's interesting how like it will, it kind of like bleeds into it where you're like, okay, now I've done the technical part of it, and I kind of, when I'm off, what does that look like from the outside? You know what I mean?
[00:05:36] Gabe Correa: Yeah, that's cool. And, and now I can, I can see like the difference how some productions do. Like even if the same thing but Formula One do in the way and the formula in another way, and then the NASCAR does another way. So that's nice to see each compare and to learn. You. Even about another sports, like in, in Japan, I stayed like a month and a half in a baseball station.
And I dunno, I'm Brazilian, we know more about soccer and this stuff and I don't, I, I look that guy's playing golf a month and a half. And I was like, okay, so then now he's gonna run, now he's gonna kick the ball. And I was like, I try to learn but you know, it's not my thing.
[00:06:23] Sean Walker: Dude. Japan has a cool sports too, dude. They have like indoor hydroplane racing and stuff. Things that we don't have here. It, it's pretty Do you ever get to do any unique things like that when you're there, or no?
[00:06:32] Gabe Correa: No, no, no,
[00:06:33] Sean Walker: Oh,
[00:06:34] Gabe Correa: no, no. Yeah, I met my wife in there. That was a nice thing that I did in Japan.
[00:06:39] Sean Walker: Nice.
[00:06:42] Gabe Correa: Yeah.
[00:06:43] Andy Leviss: another one of those who married in, in the industry.
[00:06:45] Gabe Correa: Yeah.
[00:06:48] Andy Leviss: Um, so like you were saying, there's like, there's like differences between even like the different types of racing, like the Formula E versus Formula One. Like what are some, or, I mean, what do even start simpler than that and tell folks like, like on either of those, like what are, what exactly are you doing?
And like, you know, like how, like what is a system like that and like what is your job like day to day entail in one of those, one of those gigs?
[00:07:09] Gabe Correa: Okay. Um, so talk about race then. Um, I'm the project manager for. In this case clear global and we look after all the audio and network on site. I think the biggest difference is, is that you have like speakers everywhere in different occasions. For example, you have the VP area, but you have the grand stands.
There is a big pa, and you also have the main concert and. Like even on the catering, you know, you have some speakers around, you have the media press, you have the broadcast finks, you have this part presentation, there's another setup, and then you have the broadcast side, and then all these transmissions, you know, all these fibers, all these interconnections.
Like it's, I think this is the most difficult and the different thing, you know.
[00:08:06] Sean Walker: Rather than just having coverage for one place, you're thinking about. The entire property rather than just like, Hey, how do we get even coverage in the arena? But like the arena is just one, maybe even small part of what you're doing with maybe the paddocks and the VIP and the catering and every, you know, everything else that's going on.
So is that. Like it's a bunch of distributed stuff plus a bunch of what we would think of as kind of concert or corporate-y kinda stuff. All mashed into one right where you like, it's like concert, corporate distributed, almost install style network. All of it blended into one giant gig, basically. Right.
[00:08:42] Gabe Correa: Exactly.
[00:08:43] Sean Walker: That's cool.
[00:08:44] Gabe Correa: And it's very cool. Yeah. And for example, the way that you do is this racing in Las Vegas in here. Um, there's many project managers and then one look after each place. Otherwise you, you don't do is, you know, you're like, have like five kilometers off. Place. You don't get to cross one zone to another during the, the race.
You know, like otherwise gonna walk like one hour. So you have a C crew everywhere. You have a pickup equipments like in spare everywhere. It's, it's kind of nice. It's a nice play and you know, it is like a site construction thing. Have a lot of, have machines, a lot of people, a lot of it's, it's kind of cool.
I like,
[00:09:28] Sean Walker: That's super cool, dude. So basically each zone, for lack of better terms, off the top of my head, has its own team and crew, lead or project manager, whatever. And then you guys, all the project managers are talking to each other to get the whole. Project or the whole gig to work together basically. So like Paddock has a guy or a gal and VIP has one and the stadium has one and Right.
Whatever. Yeah. Cool. Is that all tied back to like a master control with somebody doing the broadcast mix and controlling all of it? Or is each place independent or are they like Usually independent but also tied back to a master control to make it
[00:10:04] Gabe Correa: it's, yeah, depend, depend the situation. Um, the Formula E for example, they have the broadcast company on site. They get everything they transmit. Dante to London and then London push this to the air. But also they have this part presentation mixer guy that's gonna mix like microphones, reporters things.
And then we have this site wide mixers that is the guy that's gonna distribute everything and all the grand stands and everywhere, and then every location also. Sometimes need a console and there's one mixing engineering there as well for some interaction. We have this phone zone that usually is huge.
The speakers like everywhere and yeah, basically we just have like fibers, speakers and people everywhere.
[00:11:01] Sean Walker: Totally fiber speakers of people everywhere. Good talk. See out the. It. Thanks ladies. Gentlemen, that's the episode.
[00:11:06] Gabe Correa: somehow. Give some far clips as well.
[00:11:11] Sean Walker: Right? Totally. Fiber speaker, people, heavy equipment. Good talk. That's that's how it goes.
[00:11:15] Gabe Correa: Yeah, there we
[00:11:17] Andy Leviss: So, so you mentioned like sending Dante, like off to London. Like what are, what, how are you transporting that
[00:11:24] Gabe Correa: Yeah. This is
[00:11:25] Andy Leviss: get to get nerdy about it for a minute?
[00:11:27] Gabe Correa: yeah, so, um, there's a company that does this interconnection. There is a grabbed media. They do this. Transmission. We just deliver everything te we do, um, the site thing, like speakers, this part presentation mix, oh, the emergency system. This is very important for these gigs. We have, uh, automated like emergency system and that triggers everything.
Like we have the event control that have like. Zones, basically they can trick the algae, like cut the algae and play the emergency in there. And everything is through the Dante. Everything is redundant. And, you know, fibers, switches and all these things.
[00:12:20] Sean Walker: So is that something like an A HM or a Symmetrics or some kind of a DSP that does all that? Or you do that in the console itself? At Master Control?
[00:12:28] Gabe Correa: Well, it's a,
[00:12:29] Sean Walker: the broadcast or the, the announcement scene.
[00:12:31] Gabe Correa: The emergency console you mean? Oh yeah. Yeah. We usually cur current using the Yamaha system. Yamaha, the have these MRX 70 system, it's all done to everything interconnected with the Yamaha consoles, even other consoles. You can trick this and yeah, just being. Pretty good.
[00:12:55] Sean Walker: dude.
[00:12:56] Gabe Correa: We also have our clear system emergency system that we made that and works perfectly.
Now, I'm gonna use in, uh, California Silicon Valley. We have a huge project there. We are designed, it's kind of a mini technology city and have like speakers everywhere as well. Fiber everywhere, all the
[00:13:19] Sean Walker: how cool.
[00:13:20] Gabe Correa: And we're gonna implement declare imaging in there. It's also same fiber, same everything. Network can trigger everything.
[00:13:31] Sean Walker: Dude, that's awesome. What a fun thing to like. What a fun puzzle to put together, dude.
[00:13:35] Gabe Correa: Yeah. It's nice. Uh, yeah, man, I'm happy. I, I love this. I love this. It just, you know, was not actually my plan. I was always that guy that loves like orchestras, you know, I wanna work with this and that. And then when I start to do that Belli gig, I was like, oh wow. Now I found what I like, and then now I'm doing this.
And I love it. I
[00:14:01] Andy Leviss: think we talked about that before we started recording, but Gabe, for a while was you were seing for Andre Elli,
[00:14:06] Gabe Correa: Yeah. Uhhuh.
[00:14:07] Andy Leviss: So, yeah, I mean, why don't we, do you want to explain to folks like how did, how did that, like how did you end up going from that to doing like all these cool like sports things?
Was it just right time, right place, or?
[00:14:18] Gabe Correa: actually I was in Japan doing the Olympic games and I met one guy that brings me to Dubai to do that Expo Dubai gig, and then I spent eight months in Dubai mixing just orchestras. It was like a hundred orchestras in eight months in there. And then I met some guys, and then this guy bring my contact to Claire and then Claire put me on the, and then everything happened, you know, like basically like the, and then one day I met Nathaniel in London to do this first Formula E for him.
He needs a project manager. And we had a break on the And Bocelli. Yeah, that's what's happened. And then I went in there to do the formula. Yeah. Met NA Antonio. And Na Antonio was the guy that. Me, all these Claire, nice gigs, sport gigs and fun gigs.
[00:15:12] Andy Leviss: Yeah. And so that's, uh, Nathaniel Haer, who works for, has worked for Claire for a number of years, and an
[00:15:17] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah.
[00:15:18] Andy Leviss: Old, actually an old neighbor of mine, he used to live like a block and a half away from me, uh, when we lived in Queens.
[00:15:23] Gabe Correa: Yeah. I love him, man. Yeah, that's, no, I believe he's the man. Cool dude.
[00:15:34] Andy Leviss: Um, cool. I mean, do we wanna rewind further back to that and like where, how'd you get your start and how'd you end up in audio?
[00:15:40] Gabe Correa: Yep. Say again?
[00:15:41] Andy Leviss: Dude, why don't we even, let's rewind a little bit and like we, we kinda like get on the story of like how, how you started and like how you got into audio to begin with.
[00:15:49] Gabe Correa: oh yeah. So I forgot that. Uh, my dad's sound engineer in Brazil and my family have like a outdoor rental company there in Brazil. So I start, I was very young man, and. You know, put some cables, push some box with, you know, my, my family's company there. And that's where everything starts. And since that time they, they worked with a lot of orchestras, like a Brazilian symphonic and stuffs like that.
And I start to learn on the past with my dad, and that's the thing.
[00:16:27] Andy Leviss: Cool. It's, yeah, that, that, that's fun. That it's like kind of a family thing there and that, and that explains how you ended up getting into like. Orchestras and stuff. 'cause that like, it's, it's, it's fun 'cause you've had like all the like two very different, very like kind of edge case specialties that like not a lot of folks do, which I think is pretty awesome.
[00:16:46] Gabe Correa: yeah, yeah. I think that's what pushed me for all these other gigs, all these things. I was now last month doing these gigs on, in Washington, DC in front of the capitol. And there's the like, uh, United States symphonics a lot of things or in military bands and all these stuffs and it's kind of tricky, you know, if you don't know about the microphones about how, how this process things and yeah, it was nice man to do this geeking here.
And to be part of this important moments for the country. You know, I just moving here, so it's nice to be part of the 4th of July of America. You know what I mean? It's very cool. And yeah, my mom was super glad, like,
[00:17:37] Sean Walker: Dude, we do a 4th of July show here in Seattle every year. It's, it's super fun to be a
[00:17:41] Gabe Correa: it's nice, right?
[00:17:42] Sean Walker: Yeah, man. And, and it's a similar to kinda what you're talking about, but on a much smaller scale where we're like, we've got a daunting network going to drive everything, and you're covering, you know, 20 to 50,000 people kind of distributed style rather than just like left, right.
Rock and roll. But it's not nearly as complex as what you've gotta do for Formula One or, or fifa. But I get it. It's, and it's fun, right? Like.
[00:18:01] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah.
[00:18:02] Sean Walker: fireworks and like how rad, dude, you know,
[00:18:05] Gabe Correa: Yeah. That's very cool. That's very
[00:18:07] Andy Leviss: We, we had Shauna things exploding.
[00:18:10] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah.
[00:18:11] Andy Leviss: He's like,
[00:18:12] Sean Walker: boom. Shaka laka.
[00:18:16] Andy Leviss: Um, cool. So like we talked racing a little bit, um, and then you've been like, for what, the last month or so on, on fifa.
[00:18:24] Gabe Correa: Yeah, I, I Starts on fifth. Yeah. In June, I think we starts there. In Miami we had this opening. And then I worked for the press conference in a few stages, just like make sure everything was cool. So, and then I went to this 4th of July that was, you know, between the FIFA and then end up in here on the MetLife.
Yeah. And then next gig. Now it's some Google stuffs and Formula One. And then formula starts again.
[00:19:03] Sean Walker: Cool dude, that's awesome. Are you doing all the FIFA stuff around the world or just in the United States or?
[00:19:09] Gabe Correa: Well, the last fifth I did was in Brazil, like more than 10 years ago, but only Olympics. I've been doing more like, I did like, uh, Brazil, Japan, and Paris now. So I, and I hope that I can do the LA and
[00:19:24] Sean Walker: Awesome. That'd be rad,
[00:19:25] Gabe Correa: I hope,
[00:19:26] Sean Walker: super rad.
[00:19:27] Gabe Correa: Oh my God. Yeah, because things in here in the US are, you know, the productions in here are huge, man.
A lot of explosion, man. A lot of things, you know, like a lot of effects and
[00:19:37] Sean Walker: we like shit. That blows up.
[00:19:38] Gabe Correa: I know, man. A lot of effects, man. Things are huge. So, yeah, I'm looking for this. I think the next Olympics is gonna be huge.
[00:19:47] Sean Walker: dude. Fun.
[00:19:48] Gabe Correa: Yeah.
[00:19:49] Andy Leviss: Yeah. So like when you're working on the Olympics, are you doing like one particular event or like you're doing the openings there? Like what, what part of the Olympics are you, have you usually been involved in?
[00:19:57] Gabe Correa: Well, depends, uh, usually I stay between the broadcast and the staging. So they call this a diva. It's a data intercon audio video. It's a system, the MediaNet system that interconnect everything from live on the station to the OBS, the Olympics broadcast service. Usually I'm, I'm between these in one stage or in the main media press.
Depends, depends of. Depends on the apics, but I do this gig as well. This things, this is more, I think, natural, right? Like more signal flow and
[00:20:36] Andy Leviss: Like infrastructure
[00:20:37] Gabe Correa: Then Ajo. Yeah, uhhuh. But it's a lot, you know, a lot of cameras, a lot of ajo, a lot of signals. Yeah.
[00:20:45] Andy Leviss: So di different kind of challenge than like, than like putting up the big pa.
[00:20:50] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah. Yeah.
[00:20:52] Andy Leviss: And is, is there like one of those types of things or the other that you like doing better or you like having that mix where you can kind of bounce between the different
[00:20:59] Gabe Correa: Ah, man, at this point, like, I don't really care if I'm fly pa or if I'm manage like thousand fibers or, you know, it's a, it's always the gig, you know? And the final is the gig, man, you know, we're gonna meet out. That guy gonna be super fun. They're gonna be nice. You know, like it's the moment that we love, like same thing. we don't ha we don't have the buzz. But you know, we have the guys there like for three weeks. Like you can get kind of some friends, you know what I mean,
[00:21:33] Sean Walker: Yeah, dude. Totally
[00:21:34] Andy Leviss: you still got those hangs, but you don't have to sleep in a cramped bunk. It seems like the best of both worlds.
[00:21:40] Gabe Correa: Yeah. Can be. Yeah,
[00:21:42] Sean Walker: How long does it take to, to like do one of those kind of shows? Like how long, how long does it take to load that in and then like. Show and then load it out like is that you sit like three or four weeks. Is that that? That seems like a long time. That's awesome.
[00:21:53] Gabe Correa: Yeah, I think like a normal races, we take like one week prep, like three, four days prep, at least three, four days prep, travel, go do the gig like in 10 days. Yeah, like it is. Well then some special case like this one in Las Vegas, as you mentioned, it's kind of things. Installation. Right. Fixed installation and exactly what we do is in there.
So Scott Diamond is a, is another project manager there. He spent I think three weeks just running cables in there for these speakers, man, to do all these VP rooms and all these stops. You know, like, so some gigs take like more than a month. Like it's insane.
[00:22:36] Sean Walker: Dude, that's awesome. But it's a lot of like, it's a lot of prep and work and it's all gotta be right, right. Like it, you can't, you can't just kind of figure it out as you go. You gotta sort it out ahead of time and then go install this ginormous thing across a whole city, right? Sometimes.
[00:22:49] Gabe Correa: Yeah, and that's the tricky, right? Because usually these street race are the tricky one because like you in the middle of the sea, like Las Vegas or Rome. Tokyo, we did race in Tokyo, like street race and it's nice, it's challenge, you know, you have to sometimes use the fiber from the city, like from the in infrastructure church 'cause how we're gonna cross things, you know, like you are really far, you know, so
[00:23:16] Sean Walker: So you're tying into like dark fiber in the city or whatever. Make
[00:23:18] Gabe Correa: correctly, yeah.
Yeah. Use a lot of dark fiber. Um. And yeah, that, that's nice things. So like I, I like, man, it's a bit crazy, right? But I love to do it, man. I love
[00:23:31] Sean Walker: dude, that's super fun and like a cool gig at the end, right? Like something that's unique and fun and like everybody's having a blast, you know?
[00:23:39] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah. And also it, it's easy to do if this conference, like Claire read this conference that I work, like they have everything like. There's no, you know, like
[00:23:50] Sean Walker: If they got all the tools you
[00:23:51] Gabe Correa: like, oh my God. Yeah,
[00:23:53] Sean Walker: Le Les MacGyver Cowboy work and more like getting it done with the tools you need. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:23:56] Gabe Correa: yeah. It was like just easy, you know, in the seconds they can just appear. Like with trucks and trucks, it's easy. What make
[00:24:05] Andy Leviss: is nice. It's nice when you, yeah, it's nice when you don't have the question of like, well, why do you need it? It's just like, no, I know you need it. I'm sending it.
[00:24:11] Gabe Correa: I dunno. Yeah, we, we get surprised that sometimes like, oh, we didn't ask these. The guys said, you know,
[00:24:18] Sean Walker: That's cool.
[00:24:19] Gabe Correa: that's very cool. It's very
[00:24:20] Sean Walker: Yeah, it's one of
[00:24:20] Gabe Correa: blessed.
[00:24:21] Sean Walker: one of the nice things of working for a big, big outfit that you like. You've got the infrastructure in place to be able to deal with whatever comes along, you know?
[00:24:29] Gabe Correa: Yeah. And then, you know, you can make your client happy. Everybody happy, like everybody involved is happy, you know, like,
[00:24:36] Sean Walker: Absolutely.
[00:24:37] Gabe Correa: Korea as well, man, I, I really love all these guys that works in here with me. Like, it's just amazing.
[00:24:45] Sean Walker: Dude. Killer.
[00:24:47] Gabe Correa: Yeah, it's, I, I mean, I was like, um, when I move in as a new country, like in here, like I, I was a bit afraid, you know?
I'm like. The one, like the Brazilian guy, the Greeno and all that. See, but man, it was so cool. Like
[00:25:00] Sean Walker: dude, it's important to like dig the crew you're working with, right? You're gonna spend so much time with him in such a high stress situation. Like so cool to like you just getting along and vibing with the homies. You know what I mean?
[00:25:10] Gabe Correa: Yes. Yeah, exactly The word, man. Never think about vibes.
[00:25:15] Sean Walker: Totally.
[00:25:15] Gabe Correa: Manage the vibes. You know, if you know, if everybody's happy, nothing. Wrong can happen, you
[00:25:24] Sean Walker: Totally.
[00:25:25] Gabe Correa: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Andy Leviss: So, you know, I had a question, but I feel like we already covered that one. So let me, I'm trying to think how to rephrase it. Um. Well, I mean, like, what do, like, how, obviously like when you're using like dark fiber and stuff like, and said you can't put the whole rig necessary together to test it, but like how, like what is, like, what is the prep and like, like pre-built and packaging for like a gig like that?
Or like how much of it is like packaged and tested? Is it like in chunks or do you like drop other fiber in and test like all the sites together? Like in the shop? I mean, I know, I know Claire's got a ton of space, so I, I imagine you could feasibly do that, but like how much of that are you doing in advance and how much of it is like kinda.
We test the modules, we can, and we know they all work independently, so all we have to do is tie 'em together.
[00:26:13] Gabe Correa: Yeah, no, we prep every single thing. Every single piece, and we test every single piece on the shop. Of course, when you have these dark fibers, you cannot, but you just, you know. Jump that loop in here and, but every single piff is tested. Um, sometimes also these nice thing is, uh, you have a huge support on the shop.
Like Claire have like amazing network guy there, amazing RF guy in there, amazing engineers. The guys from Dig or whatever. Yeah, ma any consult. So even if you're prepping there with a specialist and you know, sometimes you wanna ask something, you know, sometimes you wanna do something different. Man, it is just like a walk, like, you know, one minute walk, you're gonna meet someone and he's gonna bring you with a plan and support you and change whatever you need.
And that, that's a cool thing as well, you know, in these kinds of gigs. Yeah. Yeah. That, that's very nice. Yeah.
[00:27:12] Sean Walker: I, I, I absolutely agree with, you know, being able to have a network of, of people to help, you know what I mean? To like, how do I do this? Or how did I do this on this again? Or, you know what I mean? That's awesome. Or, Hey man, I've got this unique situation. I, I think it works like this.
Is that really how it works here? Or, you know what I mean? That, that's awesome to have that kind of, that network, you know what I mean? A lot of us, a lot of us are blessed to have something similar at a smaller scale to be able to like. Call manufacturers or call friends that, that, you know, work at manufacturer, whatever.
And that's, it's so helpful, dude. It's so helpful.
[00:27:45] Gabe Correa: Yeah, the thing is basically like 24 hours, man. It's, there's a, um, when it starts was a Bri Britain, the Clear UK branch, and I was doing a race in South Korea and something happened with my DSP in there. And I, I had this number, this guy, the, the consult department guy from virtual, and I call him, it was like 4:00 AM in London.
And man, I got the new DSP on the gig like. One hour like the guy make happen. Like it's,
[00:28:18] Sean Walker: Killer dude.
[00:28:19] Gabe Correa: yeah, it's like, okay. It is like I look to the client and the guy, so, so whatcha gonna do? I said, no, I already have the think it's done. Like,
[00:28:27] Sean Walker: Yeah, it's on its
[00:28:27] Gabe Correa: so hard work, like, you know, it took one hour, like
[00:28:31] Sean Walker: Yeah, be here an hour. No big deal.
[00:28:32] Gabe Correa: Yeah. And you're not in New York, you know, you're there in South Korea, it's far, you know, from, from the base of the company.
We don't even have a shop in there yet. You know?
[00:28:42] Sean Walker: I like the yet part. You will soon enough. Don't, don't worry about it. They're, they're
[00:28:47] Andy Leviss: mean, I'm not,
[00:28:48] Sean Walker: You got a whole m and a department working on that for you.
[00:28:50] Andy Leviss: I'm gonna say, we're not saying Claire just announced another acquisition like today, but we're not, not saying that.
[00:28:55] Gabe Correa: Yeah, right.
[00:28:57] Andy Leviss: Actually the radio have been going. We could almost just say that every day.
[00:29:01] Gabe Correa: yeah, it's good news. Always.
[00:29:04] Andy Leviss: Yeah.
[00:29:06] Sean Walker: Dude, how
[00:29:06] Gabe Correa: family man.
[00:29:08] Sean Walker: Dude, how cool to have those resources though, man? Like as a technician, you know what I mean? Like the business MMA and businesses side. Like how cool is a technician to be able to say. Oh shit. I'm in South Korea. My DSP just died for this huge freaking thing I'm doing, and an hour later the the boss has got something on site for you.
Like, that's amazing, dude. That's, that's killer support, dude.
[00:29:28] Gabe Correa: Yeah. No, it's, they, they, they do. And it's basically everywhere. All the shops like our renting in Europe, BBM, um, our class shops, Claire Japan, Dubai, Saudi, these guys are killers, man.
[00:29:44] Sean Walker: That's awesome.
[00:29:45] Gabe Correa: It's amazing. You know, the, the support that you have. With everything, like, you know, they wanna make the things correct. You know, in the best way possible.
Yeah. You know,
[00:29:58] Sean Walker: Yeah,
[00:29:59] Gabe Correa: it's not that thing like, oh, should I do this? And all log away because we don't have a fiber like you, you don't have these kinds of things. It's just like, man, take whatever. What is better? Ah, it's the fiber taking here with truck full of whatever you need, and do the gig, make it the client help go to the next,
[00:30:16] Sean Walker: Totally. I mean, that's how you keep clients happy, right? Doing the, doing the right thing all the time and making sure you got their best interest at heart, always,
[00:30:22] Gabe Correa: Yes.
[00:30:23] Sean Walker: you know,
[00:30:24] Andy Leviss: Well. Sorry. I was gonna say, that's the thing, 'cause like, like as like all these acquisitions and stuff get, you know, and mergers like get announced, it's real easy to have that knee jerk reaction of like, oh, it's just about money. They're just trying to buy up everybody they can. But like when you think about it from like the functional, doing the gig perspective, like there's, there's a total, like an operational reason that it makes perfect sense to do if you can.
'cause that's what gives the resources, like Gabe was talking about.
[00:30:50] Gabe Correa: Yeah.
[00:30:51] Sean Walker: Totally man,
[00:30:52] Gabe Correa: It's a bit of, it is a bit of spoiler, but we gonna have our new facility now in rock lit in a few months, I think, I think next month.
[00:31:00] Sean Walker: Cool
[00:31:01] Gabe Correa: And I had a, like a visit in there, like a walk inside man. It's a paradise for the engineers, you know, to prep to,
[00:31:12] Sean Walker: dude. That's
[00:31:12] Gabe Correa: people will get surprised in there.
[00:31:14] Sean Walker: dude. That's awesome.
[00:31:16] Gabe Correa: it's just love.
Yeah.
[00:31:18] Andy Leviss: Yeah, I've been, I've been hearing rumor about that, so it'll be exciting
[00:31:21] Gabe Correa: Oh my
[00:31:22] Sean Walker: one in Nashville too, right? You guys are building
[00:31:24] Gabe Correa: yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a rock Ladies in there. Uh, rock, Nashville. Sorry. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah.
[00:31:32] Sean Walker: Dude, that's fun. What, what do you got coming up that you're stoked about? What? What did you say was next? Again?
[00:31:37] Gabe Correa: Oh, my next gig, it's in the Brooklyn. I'm gonna do this Google Annual product launch the, the new things for Google,
[00:31:46] Sean Walker: Yeah.
[00:31:47] Gabe Correa: and then I go to. Silicon Valley to do that mini technology city that I told you
[00:31:55] Sean Walker: Yeah, dude, that'll be fun.
[00:31:58] Gabe Correa: These things, it's, yeah, I'm spent a lot of time design these things, man. Like work is crazy, but on the end it's gonna be cool.
[00:32:08] Sean Walker: Yeah, dude, that's rad.
[00:32:10] Gabe Correa: Yeah, it
[00:32:12] Sean Walker: wait to hear about how some of those went. Dude, when you, when you're done with some of those gigs, you gotta get share and tell us how they went.
[00:32:18] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah. So when you guys show, come to Visit Mini there, man. Lead it. Come to Rocky, it, you know,
[00:32:24] Sean Walker: Yeah, I'll come
[00:32:25] Gabe Correa: some time in there. Or even when you are
[00:32:28] Andy Leviss: the, once the new
[00:32:29] Gabe Correa: in the air, when the things, uh, the new, I think it's in 10 days. I think it's, it is this month now. Yeah, it's already August. Yeah.
[00:32:38] Andy Leviss: Yeah. It's like I, I gotta figure, I gotta figure out when we can, like, when I can take a, it's family vacation to Lititz,
[00:32:42] Gabe Correa: yeah, man.
[00:32:43] Sean Walker: There you go. How far is that from you, Andy?
[00:32:45] Gabe Correa: You know his, his wife is sound engineer as
[00:32:48] Andy Leviss: a half hours. Yeah. So she, yeah. She's actually been to Lititz. I have not, but, uh,
[00:32:53] Sean Walker: I mean, the, the challenging part in Andy's household is that he's the second best engineer in his house, dude, that, you know what I mean?
[00:33:00] Andy Leviss: Oh, no, I, that's, that's how, that's how I introduce myself. Sean's not giving me shit that's, he's taking words right outta my mouth. Um, yeah, no, I'm, I'm excited to check it out 'cause I heard all these stories of how cool it is and now that the new building's there and Yeah. Nathaniel's telling me a little bit about it when we talked a few months ago when he, when he introduced you and me to see you make Kenny you on the, because Nathaniel's like, yeah, I'm too shy to come on the show.
I've got somebody way cooler. You should talk to meet my buddy Gabe. And then, yeah, we've been playing like email tag for a couple months to, to line up schedules and get Gabe on. So.
[00:33:35] Gabe Correa: Yeah. Yeah. Well I got very busy man. Sorry for that. And you as well. And so,
[00:33:41] Andy Leviss: Yeah. No, it's all good. Busy. Busy is
[00:33:43] Gabe Correa: this is good, right? Yeah.
[00:33:45] Andy Leviss: I mean, with what we're paying you to be on this episode, like take the word
[00:33:48] Gabe Correa: Yeah. Right. And I'm here at the hotel, you know, like, so let's go talk a little bit, right?
[00:33:59] Sean Walker: That totally
[00:34:00] Andy Leviss: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're out by MetLife. It's not like there's a lot to do there. There during the day.
[00:34:05] Gabe Correa: Yeah, no, I'm doing these night shifts now, so I'm gonna start at 8:00 PM so it's fine. The last bits to remove
[00:34:13] Sean Walker: right.
[00:34:13] Gabe Correa: fifa?
[00:34:14] Sean Walker: Is it, but you're doing like. If, if I am listening to these gigs you're doing, you're doing like sports, concerts, corporate, all kinds of different types of events. It's not just one type of event that you're doing, so that keeps it like fresh, right? You're like, cool man, what are we getting into today?
Rather than just like, oh yeah, another whatever, or, oh yeah, it's same old thing, but it's like networking and, and systems for a ton of different styles of events, right?
[00:34:38] Gabe Correa: Yes, correct. And even inside of these sports, you have things, right? Like you have the press conference, you have the main stage with concerts. So you keep always, you know, always on the thing, always on the bus. Like basically, you know, you have a, a bit of everything. Not a beat, you know, usually it's big, but
[00:34:58] Sean Walker: Totally,
[00:35:00] Gabe Correa: a huge slice of everything on the gig.
[00:35:03] Sean Walker: totally, dude. Totally. Dude, how cool. What, what, like how cool is a technician to. Do that kind of nerd work for so many different kinds of things to keep it really interesting. Dude and I, and I say nerd work in the highest possible regard. I just mean like to just dig in and really like get into the nitty gritty of things and really like satisfy that itch that we've all got to like dig in deep.
You know what I mean? That's freaking awesome, dude.
[00:35:30] Gabe Correa: Yeah, we do these things, man, it's a lot of special events. Like, uh, when I was in Dubai, we did this national day for them, and man, it's like two months you work with Elisa immersive season and the speakers everywhere and microphones and Royal Philharmonic playing for that thing and. So, you know, and a lot of fiber and connections and then trucks for the broadcast and all these stuffs.
It's cool, man. I love, it's, it's busy, you know, like it's, but it's nerds, you know, a gig. But if you have the correct people as well, like, you know, it's always, doesn't matter what you do, right? Like if you have the correct cre, like the correct equipment, like it's came
[00:36:18] Sean Walker: the, that's the important part is to get the correct crew going,
[00:36:20] Gabe Correa: Oh my God,
[00:36:21] Sean Walker: you can get the gear any place in the world somehow, you know what I mean? It's the people that really make it happen.
[00:36:26] Gabe Correa: correct.
[00:36:27] Sean Walker: that's
[00:36:27] Gabe Correa: hundred percent,
[00:36:29] Sean Walker: Having a great team, not only that is technically proficient or you know, creative at what they do is also, like you said, good vibes, good hangs that everybody's like having a good time doing great work, and clients are stoked.
And that's just a winning formula everywhere in the world, you know?
[00:36:42] Gabe Correa: yes. Correct. Yeah. That's what keep the things going like I think that. Yeah, man, a hundred percent Creole Creole vibes, you know, and understand that like define the propose. The thing is just one, you know, just like delivery the thing. Make everybody happy, have a nice time and go to the next, or go back to your family or whatever.
[00:37:10] Sean Walker: Totally Where? Where speaking to go. Back places. Where have you been that you're like, I gotta go back. I can't wait to go back to this place. 'cause the vibe was good or the food was good or the people were awesome or you know, I'm sure you have a bunch of experiences, but like, where's a couple that you're like, holy crap, I can't wait to go back.
[00:37:26] Gabe Correa: Man, I love Japan. I have something with Japan. You know, like, I love this place. I've been there like, I think 3, 4, 5 times. But I, I love, um, but like for vacation Thailand, that's the place. But yeah, I think to leave, to work, like I always, I'm always happy to be in, in, in docu or even London
[00:37:51] Sean Walker: anytime, anytime gigs come up in Japan, you're like hands in the air volunteering to be the
[00:37:55] Gabe Correa: oh yeah, first one. Like, Hey, hi.
[00:37:58] Sean Walker: Hey me, I go, I'll go. It's me,
[00:37:59] Gabe Correa: I'm gonna go. I gotta go.
[00:38:01] Sean Walker: You're the Japan guy. I'm in. Let's
[00:38:02] Gabe Correa: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:38:04] Andy Leviss: Yeah, that's a, that's a country that's definitely on my list to go back to.
[00:38:07] Gabe Correa: Ah, yeah. It's
[00:38:08] Andy Leviss: not worked there, but I, I went for like a family wedding like probably like 10 years ago now, and I'm like dying to go back and just explore more and
[00:38:16] Gabe Correa: Uh,
[00:38:17] Andy Leviss: it's so
[00:38:18] Gabe Correa: I love it, man. Yeah,
[00:38:19] Andy Leviss: So much good food
[00:38:21] Gabe Correa: and to be honest, I've, I've been, I like in here as well. I move in here like, it's like six months I've been living in here in the US and it's pretty cool man in here. You guys have everything, you guys have all the machines, all the, all the stuff. It's,
[00:38:37] Andy Leviss: we do everything
[00:38:38] Gabe Correa: comfortable, you know, to living here.
I like, like it's, it's very cool, man. Yeah, it's very coffee,
[00:38:45] Sean Walker: It's, it's, you know, like anywhere else in the world, it's kind its own set of challenges, but it is pretty, it is pretty comfortable to live here,
[00:38:51] Gabe Correa: yeah, man.
[00:38:52] Sean Walker: we, we mostly bicker with each other 'cause we're bored and everything's comfortable. You know what I mean? It's first world problems dude. First world problems,
[00:39:00] Gabe Correa: No, it is too nice. You know? Too easy.
[00:39:04] Sean Walker: dude. Totally. That's awesome.
[00:39:07] Andy Leviss: And we have barbecue.
[00:39:09] Gabe Correa: Yeah, man.
[00:39:10] Sean Walker: Oh, speaking of food, dude. What? What's up? What's up with food if we come visit and lititz, where are we going for food, bro?
[00:39:14] Gabe Correa: Ah, Brazilian barbecue at my place, man. On the backyard, you know?
[00:39:20] Sean Walker: love it.
[00:39:21] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah.
[00:39:22] Sean Walker: Love it.
[00:39:23] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah, man.
[00:39:25] Andy Leviss: God. Now I'm just gonna sit here salivate. Sean, you gotta ask the rest of the questions 'cause I'm just drooling
[00:39:29] Sean Walker: Yeah, right.
[00:39:30] Andy Leviss: of this recording.
[00:39:31] Sean Walker: Just Bri Brazilian barbecue and CNOs the whole time. You're just like, and it'd be cross-eyed before you know.
[00:39:36] Andy Leviss: man.
[00:39:37] Gabe Correa: man, these guys know the things.
[00:39:41] Sean Walker: That's awesome, dude.
[00:39:43] Gabe Correa: Cool, man. Nice.
[00:39:46] Sean Walker: What are, what are some of the things that you were like hoping we'd ask that we haven't asked yet, man? Is there stuff that you wanna chat about that we haven't asked you about yet?
[00:39:54] Gabe Correa: I think it'll be pretty much covered a lot, man. We talk about a lot of things, right when it starts in there with my family. Um, the gigs, you know, I did in Brazil and everywhere. Saw all these games, all these sports as broadcast, man. Yeah.
[00:40:12] Andy Leviss: So if, if there's, if there's some somebody out there that like wants to get into, like the type of events you're doing, do you have any advice for somebody who wants to like, specialize in that kinda work and get into it on like how to start?
[00:40:23] Gabe Correa: Uh, study. You need to study. You know, I remember when it starts with there with like analog console, I was like, you don't really need to stu that much, you know, to make some rock, to push some
[00:40:39] Andy Leviss: Up is louder. That's about it.
[00:40:41] Gabe Correa: you know? Of course, eh, when I became adult, I understand that. I need to start. But with these network things, with all this technology involved in this broadcast, it's like very high profile.
So you need to keep update. You need to start, it's like, um, I just finished now on one Certificating AI on the MIT. I was studying now like for six months. So this AI as well, man, you know, you. It's a lot of things, a lot of ways you can explore the technologies nowadays. So it's, it's,
[00:41:20] Andy Leviss: Do you, do you wanna dig into that a little more? Like where do you see AI coming into, like your day to day on, like these type of events and, and like, how, how, how do you see it helping you?
[00:41:28] Gabe Correa: so, uh, well as a project manager, I have this, help me in like, since the start, like, um, schedule. General notes, like if I have a gig, you know, like how the maps everything, how the information, like even to get some emails done quickly, like I use a lot to do these kind of management things. Of course, not on, on site is still too early, you know, to trust in this.
You know what I mean? And, but on the prep production, the postproduction and everything, and how these like alert things and things that can make it easier, life and quickly, it's very useful, very useful.
[00:42:18] Andy Leviss: I feel like at some part we gotta do an episode digging more into that side of things.
[00:42:22] Gabe Correa: Yeah, man. Yeah. I'm working get some kinds of, not application apps, but some kinds of boots to help me like a really, you know, and implement to my career as well to everyone. Like it's, yeah, it's a good
[00:42:39] Andy Leviss: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta keep us updated on how that goes and maybe we'll have you back out and like,
[00:42:42] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah, man. Yeah. Let's keep in touch. Of course. Yeah, yeah, sure. It's very, no, just starts. But anyway.
[00:42:50] Andy Leviss: All right, so I'm gonna ask you, this is a question I I used to ask folks more often and I haven't in a bit. Uh, is there, like, if you go back through like a bunch of the gigs you've done, is there, is there like some mistake you made and learned from that you're willing to like, share, like to both, to share with folks, like how you learned from it?
And also I'd just like letting, like, I like showing people that, like we all make mistakes and we can all like learn from them. Is there, like, is there something you're, you're willing to talk about or not? If not too embarrassed or won't get you into trouble.
[00:43:18] Gabe Correa: No. Um, what can be, uh, wow. I did a lot of mistakes. When it starts, man. You don't understand.
[00:43:27] Sean Walker: Bro. We all did.
[00:43:28] Andy Leviss: All of us. Yep. That's why I
[00:43:30] Gabe Correa: thing that I learned, like it's like, take notes of everything, you know, before you press any button. And, but yeah, I think, I don't know, man. Um. I think I, I, I think I, I, I trusting a lot of people before, uh, that was just like, you know, like was not.
Um, sometimes we get confused in some tours. You know, you start to live with that people for that much time. You confuse like, ah, it's a friend, or It's not friend, or stuff like that. And trust people to even sometimes like, oh, do it. I'm going to the toilet. Can you do that? And then that thing doesn't happen on that time.
That kill doesn't happen. You know what I mean? Like trusting you, incorrect. People should do the gig. I think this is on mistakes that I did before in the past. You know, like, and now I'm very selective to who works with me or not. Like,
[00:44:32] Andy Leviss: That's a good, that's a deep, that's a deep one That's steeper than I feel like a lot of people
[00:44:35] Gabe Correa: yeah, because I can, I can just like lose my job 'cause of that.
'cause of somebody who else, you know what I mean?
[00:44:42] Andy Leviss: yeah. I was gonna say, 'cause my, my next question was gonna be if you had a piece of advice for either. Past Gabe, when you were younger, if you could go back or for somebody else coming up.
But I feel like you just answered that one, so
[00:44:52] Gabe Correa: sorry.
[00:44:54] Andy Leviss: No, it's all, it's all good. Yeah, it's, it's so funny. I've been like, I'm, I'm not gonna talk about with who yet, but I've been going through a bunch of job interviews, like folks on the show know I've been trying to like pivot away from freelancing and it's, that's always the funny thing and interviews going through and like, you answer one question slowly, they're like, okay.
That was my next three questions we already covered.
[00:45:12] Gabe Correa: Oh.
[00:45:13] Andy Leviss: hold on, gimme a second.
[00:45:16] Sean Walker: Dude. Totally. Well, that seems like a good place to wrap if you guys are cool and feel like we covered it all.
[00:45:23] Gabe Correa: Oh yeah.
[00:45:23] Andy Leviss: I, I mean, yeah, we covered everything from like fiber optics to, we're having a barbecue party at Gabe's Place, so, uh, I'll see everybody there.
[00:45:31] Sean Walker: Meat. Meat and crans. Let's rip, bro. I'll get on a plane for that.
[00:45:35] Gabe Correa: He says, man,
[00:45:36] Sean Walker: Yeah. Well,
[00:45:37] Gabe Correa: cool.
[00:45:38] Sean Walker: thank you so much for spending this fricking time with us, man. We appreciate it. I know you're out ripping and it was super cool to catch up and here about all the rad stuff you're doing. Dude, that's different from the like.
Left right arena shows that a lot of people are doing that Claire's known for mostly. Right. Like that's, that's kind of their, their bread and butter. Right. So it's cool to see that you're doing like super interesting work all over the planet too, man. That's great. Thanks to Allen and Heath and RCF for letting us Yap about audio for, uh, you know, for another day.
And, uh, that's the pod y'all. See you next week.
Music: “Break Free” by Mike Green
